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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.organicthrifty.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/d1d817953578dcf.png" alt="Marcy Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Marcy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously you wrote this post a while ago, but I believe native americans in this region used root cellar type techniques to extend produce into the winter. We&#039;re thinking about building a root cellar at our house and we&#039;ve started work on a permaculture type garden. (I&#039;m the laziest weeder ever). 

Even though we don&#039;t get much heat here in the valley (except last week!), we generally don&#039;t have severe winters either so we&#039;re one of the best locations for season-extending besides Maine (where the snow actually helps insulate their raised beds).

I think if it comes down to peak oil and everyone eating locally, Oregon might be the best off of anywhere. California may be warm but how are they going to get water?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously you wrote this post a while ago, but I believe native americans in this region used root cellar type techniques to extend produce into the winter. We&#8217;re thinking about building a root cellar at our house and we&#8217;ve started work on a permaculture type garden. (I&#8217;m the laziest weeder ever). </p>
<p>Even though we don&#8217;t get much heat here in the valley (except last week!), we generally don&#8217;t have severe winters either so we&#8217;re one of the best locations for season-extending besides Maine (where the snow actually helps insulate their raised beds).</p>
<p>I think if it comes down to peak oil and everyone eating locally, Oregon might be the best off of anywhere. California may be warm but how are they going to get water?</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was often frustrated in my gardening in Oregon as well. Learning that Portland sits on the same line of latitude as Bordeaux, France where some of the most lovely wine grapes are produced, surprised me. True, they have some warmth from the Mediterranean Sea, but not a drop more sunlight. That inspired me to look for &quot;early&quot; varieties of my favorite fruits and veggies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was often frustrated in my gardening in Oregon as well. Learning that Portland sits on the same line of latitude as Bordeaux, France where some of the most lovely wine grapes are produced, surprised me. True, they have some warmth from the Mediterranean Sea, but not a drop more sunlight. That inspired me to look for &#8220;early&#8221; varieties of my favorite fruits and veggies.</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.organicthrifty.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/abe246a0ce962b7.png" alt="carrie Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> carrie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 08:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Renee,

I LOVED Animal-Vegetable-Miracle; it really did introduce me to this whole concept, and while I&#039;m still far from implementing it, it&#039;s great &quot;food for thought&quot;.  I will enjoy reading your reveiw! Thanks!

Sarah,

Thanks for your sweet comment! I&#039;m intrigued by what your ancestors ate, even if it did involve squirrel and acorns!  Thankfully, I think the meat issue is easier to locally cultivate than the vast variety of veggies!

Shannon,

Thanks for hosting! Its so nice to find like-minded folks!

Carrie
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Renee,</p>
<p>I LOVED Animal-Vegetable-Miracle; it really did introduce me to this whole concept, and while I&#8217;m still far from implementing it, it&#8217;s great &#8220;food for thought&#8221;.  I will enjoy reading your reveiw! Thanks!</p>
<p>Sarah,</p>
<p>Thanks for your sweet comment! I&#8217;m intrigued by what your ancestors ate, even if it did involve squirrel and acorns!  Thankfully, I think the meat issue is easier to locally cultivate than the vast variety of veggies!</p>
<p>Shannon,</p>
<p>Thanks for hosting! Its so nice to find like-minded folks!</p>
<p>Carrie<br />
@ Organic &#038; Thrifty</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.organicthrifty.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/bfb36c1ab134865.png" alt="Shannon Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Shannon</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree - great post! I love the idea of perennials so we planted some perennial onions this year as well as a whole perennial herb garden. I am hoping it will save me a bit of time next year. 

We&#039;ve also wild foraged a few things this year: sorrel, dandelion leaves, black raspberries and now wild grape leaves. I am looking forward to your future menu planning post.

Thanks for participating in Food Roots. I hope to see you back there again!

Shannon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree &#8211; great post! I love the idea of perennials so we planted some perennial onions this year as well as a whole perennial herb garden. I am hoping it will save me a bit of time next year. </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve also wild foraged a few things this year: sorrel, dandelion leaves, black raspberries and now wild grape leaves. I am looking forward to your future menu planning post.</p>
<p>Thanks for participating in Food Roots. I hope to see you back there again!</p>
<p>Shannon</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmmmm . . . there&#039;s nothing better than some stir-fried wapato. . . . 

Just teasing! :)  

Actually, great post!  I&#039;ve been thinking about this very thing recently.  I&#039;m new to gardening, but have been wondering why people spend all their time and energy (and money) on lawn and shrubs and groundcovering plants when they can plant something like oregano (I can&#039;t see the soil through mine - a great groundcover, and edible!) or lavender.  Not saying that every front lawn yard to have tomatoes all over it, and stakes of beans, and hen houses, but it would make sense to me to spend more yard space on things that you can eat than things you can&#039;t.  And, with careful thought, it&#039;d probably look pretty similar . . . :)

Great article and I look forward to reading your upcoming posts!  My family heritage includes two Native American tribes from California (both Northern and Southern) and I can tell you what they ate! :)  Other than deer, squirrel, rabbit, and fish, they ate a lot of berries, tubers and acorn mush patties and tortillas (properly soaked, of course! :)  They were pre-NT yet they knew what they were doing! :)  Makes me think that all those almond flour pancakes are somehow in my blood! :)

Best,
Sarah

PS - I know I rarely ever comment but just wanted to let you know that I&#039;m a subscriber, and I really appreciate and enjoy your posts!  Especially the grain-free meal planning, we&#039;re on the same boat!  I also like your meal planning during Lent . . . we&#039;re Catholic, not Orthodox, but I feel more in line with you than most.

Have a great day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmmmm . . . there&#8217;s nothing better than some stir-fried wapato. . . . </p>
<p>Just teasing! <img src='http://www.organicthrifty.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>Actually, great post!  I&#8217;ve been thinking about this very thing recently.  I&#8217;m new to gardening, but have been wondering why people spend all their time and energy (and money) on lawn and shrubs and groundcovering plants when they can plant something like oregano (I can&#8217;t see the soil through mine &#8211; a great groundcover, and edible!) or lavender.  Not saying that every front lawn yard to have tomatoes all over it, and stakes of beans, and hen houses, but it would make sense to me to spend more yard space on things that you can eat than things you can&#8217;t.  And, with careful thought, it&#8217;d probably look pretty similar . . . <img src='http://www.organicthrifty.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Great article and I look forward to reading your upcoming posts!  My family heritage includes two Native American tribes from California (both Northern and Southern) and I can tell you what they ate! <img src='http://www.organicthrifty.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Other than deer, squirrel, rabbit, and fish, they ate a lot of berries, tubers and acorn mush patties and tortillas (properly soaked, of course! <img src='http://www.organicthrifty.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   They were pre-NT yet they knew what they were doing! <img src='http://www.organicthrifty.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Makes me think that all those almond flour pancakes are somehow in my blood! <img src='http://www.organicthrifty.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Best,<br />
Sarah</p>
<p>PS &#8211; I know I rarely ever comment but just wanted to let you know that I&#8217;m a subscriber, and I really appreciate and enjoy your posts!  Especially the grain-free meal planning, we&#8217;re on the same boat!  I also like your meal planning during Lent . . . we&#8217;re Catholic, not Orthodox, but I feel more in line with you than most.</p>
<p>Have a great day!</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very neat concept. I have several of these plants in my cultivated kitchen and herb gardens right now.  

Since we don&#039;t eat animal products, as a general rule, I find the whole locovore concept difficult to wrap my brain around living in the northeast. If it ain&#039;t the med. in Portland, Oregon it sure isn&#039;t in Maine either! 

I wrote about that in my review of Animal, Vegetable, Miracle.  Still working on finding the answers...

http://fimby.tougas.net/animal-vegetable-miracle-review</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very neat concept. I have several of these plants in my cultivated kitchen and herb gardens right now.  </p>
<p>Since we don&#8217;t eat animal products, as a general rule, I find the whole locovore concept difficult to wrap my brain around living in the northeast. If it ain&#8217;t the med. in Portland, Oregon it sure isn&#8217;t in Maine either! </p>
<p>I wrote about that in my review of Animal, Vegetable, Miracle.  Still working on finding the answers&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://fimby.tougas.net/animal-vegetable-miracle-review" rel="nofollow">http://fimby.tougas.net/animal-vegetable-miracle-review</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great post! I&#039;ve been doing a fair amount of foraging for local produce this spring and summer in parks and the woods around my house. I&#039;ve collected and eaten comfrey, sheep sorrel, red clover, grape leaves, mint, lemon balm and chives/onions just to name a few off the top of my head. This is also a fantastic region for berries! I have neighbors with both raspberries and blueberries for the taking (not to mention all the blackberries you can shake a stick at), but someday hope to add raspberries or marionberries to my own yard.

I can&#039;t wait to hear more about your local food finds  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great post! I&#8217;ve been doing a fair amount of foraging for local produce this spring and summer in parks and the woods around my house. I&#8217;ve collected and eaten comfrey, sheep sorrel, red clover, grape leaves, mint, lemon balm and chives/onions just to name a few off the top of my head. This is also a fantastic region for berries! I have neighbors with both raspberries and blueberries for the taking (not to mention all the blackberries you can shake a stick at), but someday hope to add raspberries or marionberries to my own yard.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait to hear more about your local food finds  <img src='http://www.organicthrifty.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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